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MelechRic · Aug 27, 2009, 05:38 PM // 17:38

I just rolled through a nice set of wins in RA with only one member of the team running a PvX build.

In general the builds on PvX aren't going to win you any trophies, but they are a decent place to start if you're trying to learn to PvP a class you're unfamiliar with.

What I enjoy most about PvX builds is that so many people run them. That makes it really easy to devise effective counters. You just know what you'll be facing 90% of the time in RA.

Laraja · Aug 27, 2009, 05:39 PM // 17:39

I wanted to reply before I read everyone else's reply so my thoughts on this are my own and not influenced by what other people have said.

I don't think PvX is destroying the game, it has helped in some ways especially when I was new and learning how spells worked together to enhance one another. When you're a newb you're still learning energy management and if I use this skill then this skill works better and so on. PvX wiki really helps with that, and each bar is explained pretty well. I still learn from it with classes that I'm unfamiliar with.

However, once you're familiar with a respective class, then PvX becomes a detriment but only if you're playing with other players who have not learned to move BEYOND Wiki, who are stuck in the mindset that if you deviate then you're a stupid nub. This happened in RA the other day when I was running a test bar on my monk because I wanted something more than the standard WoH build (it actually worked, but I'm not sure it's better than the standard bar).

In summary, PvX helps more than it hurts. It gives the new players good information, it gives the experienced player ideas and variations, a springboard if you will to other possibilities that maybe we wouldn't have considered. As for the people who can't seem to move beyond it, it's their issue and those of us stuck with those people will just have to say "no thanks" and move to a different group.

Laraja · Aug 27, 2009, 05:48 PM // 17:48

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Originally Posted by MelechRic

What I enjoy most about PvX builds is that so many people run them. That makes it really easy to devise effective counters. You just know what you'll be facing 90% of the time in RA.

^^^ This X 100. Like I mentioned in my above post, I was trying out monk bars based on the standard WoH bar the other day in RA and one of my team members had a totally hissy. (I had actually won a few rounds with it previously before a team member DC'ed or something a left us 3 vs 4). And boy do I mean he had a HISSY. OMG NOOB MONK! and /resigned like a pussy instead of manning up, growing a pair and just fighting it out. (Word to the wise: Never EVER piss off your monk =D. Yes, I was petty and let him die and let him know about it, too, and told him that bad sportsmanship never wins a game, and it was wrong to do that maybe, but it felt REALLY good to let that asshole die).

If monks keep running that standard WoH bar, it makes us too vulnerable to interrupts because everyone and their mother KNOWs what you're about to do because hundreds of monks do the SAME thing.

So next time someone is running something a bit wonky, let 'em do it, maybe they'll surprise you.

Kumu Honua · Aug 27, 2009, 10:43 PM // 22:43

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Originally Posted by fleshharvest

lol Calm down, kid.

I wager I'm older than you. Nor am I anything but calm.

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Go post your build in the ranger forum, see what they think.

Why? People on guru have the same thought process that you have. They can't see beyond the pvx builds. Look at every single bar posted in any of the forums. 99% of them will be discussing why it doesn't have skill X, Y, Z from the wiki bar.

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I'm not going to get this thread locked because you want to throw a shit fit about your "Über DPS" build. Play your crap build with your guild and stop trying to prove how "good" it is to someone on guru.

I'm not trying to prove how good it is. I want to know why you think it's crap. What makes my build worse than the crap on pvx. I mean really. Give me detailed analysis of why my build is so "lol" as the person I responded to. I've yet to see anything at all.

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If you have so much fun playing it, then play it and don't join pugs. I don't.

I seem to have said that already. You responded about the build itself and the person who said "lol". You stated that I might as well have been running an empty bar. Pray tell, what makes that so?

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lol. You agree with me and then say the point I made is retarded. Are you daft?

I agreed with you because it was an inane statement. Yes, inane statements are retarded.

Of course builds fluctuate, you know that full well since you said it. So why use that as a position as why my build is garbage? THAT is what is retarded. Not the statement itself but your use of it.

Inde · Aug 28, 2009, 01:32 AM // 01:32

This thread is going off topic, not to mention the flaming and insults. I think at this point, someone reading can get a general idea and decide for themselves the answer.